Comments on: Reflections on a Series http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/ Thoughts on God, life, and truth Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:15:41 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: PK http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-91748 PK Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:23:37 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-91748 Thanks for sharing. I think that a bilingual church cannot progress to the parallel stage until the church leadership is ready to embrace the vision of working toward a mature EM for all ages. One point of common ground between OBC and EM church leaders is that everyone can agree that an essential goal is to help the young people in the church grow into a mature, vibrant relationship with Christ. I think that a mature EM is the best way to bring that about. If the EM has a solid group of mature, godly adults they are able to have a much more effective youth ministry. Thanks for sharing. I think that a bilingual church cannot progress to the parallel stage until the church leadership is ready to embrace the vision of working toward a mature EM for all ages.

One point of common ground between OBC and EM church leaders is that everyone can agree that an essential goal is to help the young people in the church grow into a mature, vibrant relationship with Christ. I think that a mature EM is the best way to bring that about. If the EM has a solid group of mature, godly adults they are able to have a much more effective youth ministry.

]]> By: JC http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-89251 JC Sun, 03 Apr 2011 07:11:13 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-89251 Thank you for your insightful series (I actually read through the whole series in one go). This is not only helped me understand OBC and ABC relations better but also how to better train young adult leaders on campus. Many of the things you mentioned about cultural differences and relations appear in the church that I've been visiting. I have witnessed and can understand the frustrations within our EM in an OBC church when we recently tried to initiate a parallel structure but did not have enough support to progress to that stage. The EM is being burnt out and needs more vision than taking care of the kids. The EM desires to be fed but I feel the OBC is afraid of the consequences of poor planning and logistics for future generations...any suggestions? On the meantime, I will share the advice to the church leaders about being patient towards a more unanimous decision and working with leaders on both sides to develop a better relationship and understanding culturally. I think the portions on leadership training/culture would be beneficial for even student run campus ministries who are constantly replacing leaders every 1 to 2 years. Thank you again. God bless. Thank you for your insightful series (I actually read through the whole series in one go). This is not only helped me understand OBC and ABC relations better but also how to better train young adult leaders on campus.

Many of the things you mentioned about cultural differences and relations appear in the church that I’ve been visiting. I have witnessed and can understand the frustrations within our EM in an OBC church when we recently tried to initiate a parallel structure but did not have enough support to progress to that stage. The EM is being burnt out and needs more vision than taking care of the kids. The EM desires to be fed but I feel the OBC is afraid of the consequences of poor planning and logistics for future generations…any suggestions?

On the meantime, I will share the advice to the church leaders about being patient towards a more unanimous decision and working with leaders on both sides to develop a better relationship and understanding culturally. I think the portions on leadership training/culture would be beneficial for even student run campus ministries who are constantly replacing leaders every 1 to 2 years. Thank you again. God bless.

]]> By: Ed http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-22471 Ed Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:40:00 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-22471 Thanks for the thoughtful series. Wish I had read through alot of this probably 1 year earlier as it helped explain alot of the cultural issues we have seen at our church between the english and chinese deacons on a combined board. Thanks for the thoughtful series. Wish I had read through alot of this probably 1 year earlier as it helped explain alot of the cultural issues we have seen at our church between the english and chinese deacons on a combined board.

]]> By: PK http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-13165 PK Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:39:15 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-13165 I'm glad that you found the series to be helpful. I will contact you by email so that you can send me your file. I’m glad that you found the series to be helpful. I will contact you by email so that you can send me your file.

]]> By: Tin-chee (TC) Lo http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-13145 Tin-chee (TC) Lo Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:02:53 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-13145 Dear PK: I have been studying your 25-lesson-series by taking two lessons per week. So it took me 13 weeks to complete and today I just finished Lesson #25. I have learned a lot and greatly appreciate your effort. I took notes and wrote summaries every week. I plan to spend the next two weeks to review what I have learned and write a report to our church deacons. I would like to send you a Word file if you would kindly tell me your email address. (Brother TC Lo, Mid-Hudson Chinese Christian Church) Dear PK:
I have been studying your 25-lesson-series by taking two lessons per week. So it took me 13 weeks to complete and today I just finished Lesson #25. I have learned a lot and greatly appreciate your effort. I took notes and wrote summaries every week. I plan to spend the next two weeks to review what I have learned and write a report to our church deacons. I would like to send you a Word file if you would kindly tell me your email address.
(Brother TC Lo, Mid-Hudson Chinese Christian Church)

]]> By: PK http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-5204 PK Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:54:31 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-5204 Tony, thanks for the question. I think that my advice for ABC lay leaders would be similar to my advice for ABC pastors. I probably need to think about this question a little longer. When you have time, I would like to hear your thoughts. Tony, thanks for the question. I think that my advice for ABC lay leaders would be similar to my advice for ABC pastors. I probably need to think about this question a little longer. When you have time, I would like to hear your thoughts.

]]> By: Tony http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-5089 Tony Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:02:51 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-5089 thanks so much for dedicating yourself to writing these posts (and more so, to the kingdom!). I have lots of thoughts/comments that I'll post when I've processed through. One immediate question does come to mind: what advice do you have for ABC lay leaders/deacons? thanks so much for dedicating yourself to writing these posts (and more so, to the kingdom!). I have lots of thoughts/comments that I’ll post when I’ve processed through. One immediate question does come to mind: what advice do you have for ABC lay leaders/deacons?

]]> By: PK http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4637 PK Sat, 09 Jun 2007 01:40:38 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-4637 Thanks for saying "hi PK!" We have had many substantive discussions on ministry issues in the past. Feel free to go back and comment when you have the time. Thanks for saying “hi PK!” We have had many substantive discussions on ministry issues in the past. Feel free to go back and comment when you have the time.

]]> By: Elaine http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4634 Elaine Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:19:32 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-4634 I think the biggest issue I had was that I wanted to post something substantive in response, and a lot of your questions weren't something that really merited a thirty second breeze by "hi PK!" response. The second thing is that I go to your church, so it's not like I have anything new to say about our church in particular. "Have you ever served in a church like ours?" Well, yeah... :P I think I do want to go back and comment on some of the posts, but it will unfortunately need to wait until I'm not running around like that proverbial chicken... I think the biggest issue I had was that I wanted to post something substantive in response, and a lot of your questions weren’t something that really merited a thirty second breeze by “hi PK!” response.

The second thing is that I go to your church, so it’s not like I have anything new to say about our church in particular. “Have you ever served in a church like ours?” Well, yeah… :P

I think I do want to go back and comment on some of the posts, but it will unfortunately need to wait until I’m not running around like that proverbial chicken…

]]> By: PK http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/comment-page-1/#comment-4620 PK Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:43:27 +0000 http://reflections.cyberpastor.net/series/chinese-church/reflections-on-a-series/#comment-4620 DJ, thanks for the encouragement. I think that the reader to comment ratio for this series is more like 100 to 1. But I do hope that now that this series is available on the Internet it will be helpful to others for quite some time to come. A significant percentage of the readers of my blog come via search engines, so perhaps over time more readers will discover this series. DJ, thanks for the encouragement. I think that the reader to comment ratio for this series is more like 100 to 1. But I do hope that now that this series is available on the Internet it will be helpful to others for quite some time to come. A significant percentage of the readers of my blog come via search engines, so perhaps over time more readers will discover this series.

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